Judge or Ohtani

[exploited17]

MVP?

Seems like you can give it to Ohtani every year now even if he just manages to be anywhere near pretty good considering he is also a pitcher?
What could be more valuable than a 2 way player with even decent stats?

Judge could go .400 75 HRs
If Ohtani goes .270 with 30
16-10 3.75 ERA
You can't tell me Judge is more important with the value of a pitcher

 

[HotRocks]

Judge

He's currently winning the Triple Crown too so that's huge

 

[Avocado33]

Judge

Not even close

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Ohtani…

Lets see if Judge can pitch…

 

[HotRocks]

I'll start a poll

 

[crudebar]

No question I would rather have Ohtani for a career, but no question Judge will win MVP this season. It's adorable though of the amount of people that believe he will be the single season home run champ(record is 73 not 61)---but with that said there is still an aura around the name Maris and 61.

 

[HotRocks]

61 is just the AL, he has no chance at the MLB one of 73

 

[exploited17]

61 is just the AL, he has no chance at the MLB one of 73

I think he means the record is tainted with roids

 

[HotRocks]

I think he means the record is tainted with roids

Very true

 

[G-Man!]

JUDGE
Oh Tani doesn't have Babe Ruth numbers at the plate or on the mound.
Most of the members here probably didnt know Ruth was one of the best pitchers in his time.
OhTani numbers arent even close -and never will be!.

Look at Ruths pitching record in 1915, 16,& 17. He ad 65 wins in three years. When was the last time anyone did that?
Wonder how many more HR's he would have hit while being a pitcher only in those years if he was in the lineup every day hitting? He would surly have reached 800.

Red Sox thought they were trading a pitcher to the Yankees that had one good year at the plate in 1918. LOL. He only batted an average 0f 100 times in the three years as primarily a Starting pitcher.

Career Statistics​

Batting average: .342
Home runs: 714
Hits: 2,873
RBI: 2,213
Pitching W/L record: 94-46
ERA: 2.28

Top Ten in MLB history in the following categories:​

• 3rd on home run list – 714
• 10th in batting average – .342
• 2nd on RBI list – 2,213
• 1st on all-time slugging % – .690
• 2nd on all-time on-base % – .474
• 1st on all-time OPS – 1.164
• 4th on all-time runs list – 2,174
• 6th on all-time total bases list – 5,793
• 3rd on all-time walks list – 2,062

See PDF file.

Hitting Statistics​

Year	Team	LG	2B	3B	H	HR	G	R	RBI	AB	BB	SB	SO	AVG
1914	BOS	AL	1	0	2	0	5	1	2	10	0	0	4	0.200
1915	BOS	AL	10	1	29	4	42	16	21	92	9	0	23	0.315
1916	BOS	AL	5	3	37	3	67	18	15	136	10	0	23	0.272
1917	BOS	AL	6	3	40	2	52	14	12	123	12	0	18	0.325
1918	BOS	AL	26	11	95	11	95	50	66	317	58	6	58	0.300
1919	BOS	AL	34	12	139	29	130	103	114	432	101	7	58	0.322
1920	NY	AL	36	9	172	54	142	158	137	458	150	14	80	0.376
1921	NY	AL	44	16	204	59	152	177	171	540	145	17	81	0.378
1922	NY	AL	24	8	128	35	110	94	99	406	84	2	80	0.315
1923	NY	AL	45	13	205	41	152	151	131	522	170	17	93	0.393
1924	NY	AL	39	7	200	46	153	143	121	529	142	9	81	0.378
1925	NY	AL	12	2	104	25	98	61	66	359	59	2	68	0.290
1926	NY	AL	30	5	184	47	152	139	146	495	144	11	76	0.372
1927	NY	AL	29	8	192	60	151	158	164	540	137	7	89	0.356
1928	NY	AL	29	8	173	54	154	163	142	536	137	4	87	0.323
1929	NY	AL	26	6	172	46	135	121	154	499	72	5	60	0.345
1930	NY	AL	28	9	186	49	145	150	153	518	136	10	61	0.359
1931	NY	AL	31	3	199	46	145	149	163	534	128	5	51	0.373
1932	NY	AL	13	5	156	41	133	120	137	457	130	2	62	0.341
1933	NY	AL	21	3	138	34	137	97	103	459	114	4	90	0.301
1934	NY	AL	17	4	105	22	125	78	84	365	104	1	63	0.288
1935	BOS	NL	0	0	13	6	28	13	12	72	20	0	24	0.181
TOT	TOT	TOT	506	136	2873	714	2503	2174	2213	8399	2062	123	1330	0.342

Pitching Statistics​

Year	Team	LG	W	L	ERA	ER	G	GS	CG	IP	H	R	SH	BB	SO	SV
1914	BOS	AL	2	1	3.91	10	4	3	1	23	21	12	0	7	3	0
1915	BOS	AL	18	8	2.44	59	32	28	16	217.2	166	80	1	85	112	0
1916	BOS	AL	23	12	1.75	63	44	41	23	232.2	230	83	9	118	170	1
1917	BOS	AL	24	13	2.01	73	41	38	35	326.1	244	93	6	108	128	2
1918	BOS	AL	13	7	2.22	41	20	19	18	166.1	125	51	1	49	40	0
1919	BOS	AL	9	5	2.97	44	17	15	12	133.1	148	59	0	58	30	1
1920	NY	AL	1	0	4.50	2	1	1	0	4	3	4	0	2	0	0
1921	NY	AL	2	0	9.00	9	2	1	0	9	14	10	0	9	2	0
1930	NY	AL	1	0	3.00	3	1	1	1	9	11	3	0	2	3	0
1933	NY	AL	1	0	5.00	5	1	1	1	9	12	5	0	3	0	0
TOT	TOT	TOT	94	46	2.28	309	163	148	107	1221.1	974	400	17	441	488	4

 

[G-Man!]

Dont know how the chart got screwed up/ Look up Babe Ruts career stats. Its easier to reread. Somehow the chart transferred different? I added a pdf file above.